You Should Have No Intention of Conversion
At 1:26:00 in this conversation Curtis Yarvin, quoting Charlie Kirk, says “You gotta start with agreement.” This was given as a credit to Kirk in reference to the way he attempted to convert critics of the Right (or really more like the conservative “movement” if you could call if that) through finding common ground.
This is probably the first time I’ve listened to Yarvin and digested some of his political thought and I must say, I’m not really impressed. Some of what he says I agree with but if you are someone who claims “I don’t believe in the international Jewish conspiracy” or “the Holocaust is one of the most well-documented historical events ever” then that’s where I’m going to break off from you. There is no common ground when you can’t agree on the fundamentals.
Which leads me to my point: I don’t care to convert others to my cause and neither should you.
I want people on my side who have lived the experience, who believe not based on philosophy or debate but on the effort expressed in existing a certain way. The whole point of this conversation Yarvin had was to express the idea of how bad democracy is—if you couldn’t have seen and known that already, from simply existing within it, then seeking compromise is not going to benefit us.
Conversion is for those whose ideas are not powerful enough to sway people through pure experience and emotion (à la memetics), which is all that matters for humanity. If you aren’t racist from living around niggers, then no amount of me trying to tell you that you should be will do nothing.
Those who are searching for a home in their beliefs need only be exposed to those which harbor like-minded sentiments. I didn’t “agree” with the Right or become “convinced” of its points, I simply moved into where I already fit in, which happened to be the Right.
At best, conversion creates lukewarm believers who are more willing to compromise between their old and new dispositions. Compromise only truly exists within an already well-founded, homogeneous grouping, and only as it relates to tertiary, non-fundamental issues.
To top it off, the concept of conversion has been “Christianized” along the lines of “everyone should be respected for their beliefs and met where they are so as to bring them into the fold of our way of doing things.” Such a manner of approach is weak, unreliable, and prone to introducing too many independent interests which shake the entire foundation of a movement or collective.
People think it’s great that the Left are alienating so many of its voters, but how does this impact whoever represents the Right now that various disagreeing elements find themselves huddled under the same political tent? Trump is out here lighting a fucking Diwali candle because Indians are being courted by people like Vance and Musk despite claiming to be America First? THAT is what conversion gets you.
The only way I’m going to meet others where they are is as ENEMIES.
If you don’t know where you stand then get the fuck out of the way. Those on the Left, Antifa, politicians, lobbyists, racial foreigners—I have absolutely no intention of converting these people and neither should you. There is no inherent value in bringing them over to our side except as to poison the well.
Anybody who stands in the way of our delineated goals is not someone who is worth spending the time and effort to try and convince. This is equivalent to being robbed and attempting to reason with the thief about the ethics of thievery and it being bad for society as a whole. No, any smart, capable human doesn’t reason with the thief; he grabs a weapon and turns him into red pulp, eliminating the problem altogether.
We see this concept in our justice system as well, where we try to “convince” prisoners to be better, reformed individuals. Certainly we all make mistakes, but at some point your pattern of behavior has been shown inconducive to peaceful conduct and it would be better, easier, to remove you as an obstacle to general society. This is why I’m so fervently anti-police as well, as they are direct obstacles to this immediate removal of the problem in favor of abiding by the court system which employs and directs them.
Or take Christianity in particular as an example. Go on Instagram right now and find some girls that you know from highschool and I guarantee a good few of them will have posts about “living sinful lives” in college but “found the Lord” and are now just plain-old, born again angels! We all know these whores are not true to their conversions; the only lived experience they have is how many dicks could they suck in the football stadium parking lot. But people elevate the status of those who have converted to try and make their side seem appealing, whether or not the convert will maintain their new beliefs for any considerable length or time. Which is why Christianity is such a good example because the numbers may sometimes be skewed into showing there is a resurgence of youth-activity, when in reality the “drop out” rate is never disclosed. Technically I’m a Catholic convert from Protestantism, but I never made it in the larp past a year.
No, all of this effort to convert is a massive waste of time and energy which could be aimed towards effecting real change in our environments. Anybody that doesn’t FIND their way onto our side either sits on the sideline or stands against us. Those who refuse to play the game get ruled over and those who are opposed get killed.
Imagine if Charlie Kirk spent all of his time organizing whites into a unified political entity. Calling for all-white communities, the right to freedom of association and enforcing that right. Instead, he spent his vast influence and resources on debating retarded college students for clickbait videos? Name a single thing that Charlie Kirk accomplished by going around espousing the most lukewarm, 50 years in the past, conservative views. Everything that he could have done to help the actual Right was wasted on trying to appeal to as many retards as possible.
Eliminate the problem entirely. Leave no stone unturned. Stop wasting time on people who are not going to be convinced and simply bulldoze over them to carry on with the mission. Anybody who doesn’t stand with us is an obstacle to be immediately removed. We don’t want reformists, we want those who are participants to our way of life.